Monday, 03 December 2012 06:45
On Saturday, West Point Military Academy's Cadet Chapel hosted its first same-sex wedding. How does it make you feel to learn that one of our nation's premiere military academies is being used in support of gay marriage? Is this event a sign of things to come?Now consider another question on the same theme: How did supporters of same-sex marriage convince voters in the recent election to legalize gay marriage in Maryland, Maine and Minnesota? By convincing them that "people of faith" support their cause.
Advocates in Washington wore two-inch green buttons proclaiming, "Another Person of Faith Approves R. 74." A Lutheran pastor in Minnesota and his eight-person staff trained 2,500 "conversationalists" to explain how their faith led them to support gay marriage, a cause they call "marriage equality." The campaign offered similar training to more than 500 clergy in the state.
Now their movement is planning to build similar networks in Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Rhode Island and Oregon ahead of planned ballot initiatives in those states. One leader of the effort says, "I can't imagine that we will ever have a LGBT [lesbian, gay, bi-sexual and transgendered] campaign where faith is not a part of the team."
Such efforts are clearly having an effect on our culture. The number of Americans who support gay marriage has nearly doubled since 1996, from 28 percent to 50 percent. The number opposed has plummeted in that time, from 69 percent to 45 percent. Our country is rapidly becoming a post-Christian nation, as the number of Americans with no religious commitment has grown 10-fold in the last 50 years. Are we becoming a post-family nation as well?
In 1960, nearly half of all U.S. households consisted of a married father and mother living with one or more of their children; by 2008, that percentage had fallen to one-in-four households. The number of babies born to unmarried mothers increased eight-fold from 1960 to 2008. Today, 63 percent of Americans say a gay or lesbian couple raising a child is a "family."
Is Jesus grieving for our culture? He clearly defined marriage as a covenant between a man and a woman (Matthew 19:4-6, quoting Genesis 1:27 and 2:24). As he intercedes for us today (Romans 8:34), is he praying for Christians to stand for biblical truth with greater courage and compassion than ever before?
It was revealing to me that one of the partners in the West Point gay wedding vowed to the other, "I promise to be true to you, and to my own path." What will you do today to help America be true to the path of God?
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1. Pray that God would open the hearts and minds of the lost to receive Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and Lord. 2. Speak the truth in love. 3. Attempt to live as Jesus Christ, my personal Savior and Lord, would have me to.
Ultimately, being picked off by Satan is because Christians have chosen to leave the Helmet of Salvation on the shelf, the breastplate of righteousness hanging in the mud room, the sword of the spirit laying on the floor, and not sure where the belt of truth got laid down. And then Christians walk out of the front door of their homes without feet readied by the Gospel and expect victory over powers not of this world.
The reality of Christian Living is that it is a spiritual war - where Christ has overcome and supplies the victory - but you have to follow instructions and come with God's proper attire.
I remember when my dream was to attend West Point - to become an officer and gentlemen. I don't understand how any Christian pastor (Christian for that matter) can have any understanding of the Bible and condone such perversion. Where do these people come from? Is the Bible even a part of their alleged Christianity?
C.C. Risenhoover
Erasing the distinction between male and female inevitably will lead to the destruction of 'traditional family' as we know it.
With the destruction of the traditional family, we destroy the fundamental building block of a healthy society. Anyone doubting that simply needs to look at the outcome in families with a single parent and with divorced parents.
Further, the post modern approach to gay marriage--including in the main line churches--is an attack on our understanding of GOD's LOVE, which we should be modeling in our marriages and relationships with spouse, and which is rooted in selfless service and commitment to others.
With gay marriage and LGBT, the culture is substituting love for SEX and confusing the two. They are very different, the latter generally carnal and self focussed.
The ultimate effect of LGBT movement and gay marriage is to undermine and ultimately obliterate our relationship to God and to one another, substituting that which is sexual for that which is rooted in love, moving society away from committed relationships with one another and with our Creator.
It is the enemy's plan--destroy the family and loving, selfless, healthy relationships that procreate. I seems to be working as our people continue to move away from faith and submission to God's authority.
Reading today's commentary along with a devotional (quoted above) is how I know that I must live! If not, the constant calling of wrong becoming right will begin to erode my joy and commitment to the knowledge and trust I have in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Eleanor are you asking us to compromise the Word of God? We as Christians have shouted from the housetops so that all may hear. We do not hate the sinner, we hate the sin! God tells us
that these people will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven if
thet do not cease following after their lusts. It is our jobs to do
all that we can to keep them from perishing in hell. They know
this and continue to rebel and attack Christians. They know the
choice is choose Jesus or choose lustful , behavioural and sinful addictions. That simple. We have gone through great lengths to show them we love them but they refuse to believe it,
on purpose. Marginal thinking is not healthy for Christians! I'll
pray for you!
For the wages of sin is death,but the gift of God is eternal Life through Jesus Christ? Any disobedience to what God says is sin without repentance ( turning away from)of that sin can and will bring eternal death(Romans 3:23). God is not willing that any should perish, but must repent and turn away from all sin.
Eleanore, may God bless you and your family! I just want to let you know that I too for over 20 years have been mis-informed about God's word until I started reading it for myself with the intention to find out who he truly is, as opposed to his image being formed by my pastor, my mother or religious groups. Well he certainly opened my eyes to see the truth and I was quite angry because I felt duped because what I thought he expected of me as his child was so different than what he really does expect of me according to his word. I would like for you to read, Romans 1:18-32. But before you do, I would like for you to pray that God would give you the understanding an open your heart to receive his truth. I love you in Jesus Christ and believe that God open your heart to receive his word. God Bless You and your family!
point, I hope that Eleanore takes your words to
heart.I gave you a big thumbs up! Thank you!
God bless you and yours! Love.
truths of scripture and were in no position to legislate it
as they were being persecuted at the time. Christianity spread
by virtue of evangelistic efforts to present the Gospel in places
that knew nothing about it. Yes there was compassion but it was firmly entrenched in the core beliefs that Jesus and His Apostles brought forward. In the days of the early church these
precious beliefs were under attack as they are now. Heretics
and rogue belief systems claiming to be Christian threatened
to abolish or do great damage to the real gospel. It would require a marginal Christian to say that those things foisted on Christianity was o.k. in those days as well as today. Either
something is absolutely right or it is absolutely wrong. The sin
of homosexual behaviour is wrong from the beginning and
on that note alone any union or marriage amongst them is also
wrong. The question comes if you know something is sin, would
you endorse the same sin at a deeper level ? Homosexual
unions are that deeper level! You decide who you are going to
please by how you decide the question- God 's position against
homosexuality or homosexuals and their imagined rights?
Either way you must love God and those you agree with or not!
You write, "I am troubled by laws that restrict human behavior."
This is a totally bogus argument when it comes to Christian opposition to gay marriage. No one is proposing reinstating sodomy laws. No one is proposing that a longstanding right be taken away. Those opposing gay marriage are merely questioning the wisdom of rewriting a long, cross-culturally accepted definition of marriage.
The church has no business "enforcing laws" as you say. But as citizens of a nation that allows citizens to have a say in MAKING laws, we have a responsibility to let our deepest beliefs inform our participation.
Peter, The Bible is very clear that God
does not bless a nation that turns its
back on His laws. We may have free will
to a certain extent, but there are consequences for us as individuals as well as a nation. This country was founded on Christian principles by men who were imperfect themselves but knew that without a devout people this land would not succeed. We have succeeded beyond anyone's comprehension. We have just forgotten what made us great. Without the Lord's divine help we are going to lose all that we take for granted. We cannot continue to fly in His Face and think He will continue to bless us. He says He won't. We are no
different that those in the Old Testament, trying His patience over and over and deciding they knew better and had outgrown His laws.
Mr. Obama (I refuse to call him president)claims to be a Christian. I admit I don't know his heart, but I have seen his actions-support of the gay/lesbian agenda, support of abortion, halting the National Prayer Breakfast-while supporting Muslim Eid Feasts and his apparent lack of Christian moral values I question his belief in Christ as Savior.
I am praying for spiritual awakening daily. I believe our country needs to repent and return to God or we will surely fall. We are more like Sodom and Gomorrah every day. May God send awakening!
Their souls are at stake The deeper they are allowed to get into
their sins the harder it will be to help spare them from God's
Great Wrath. Adam went along with Eve's rebellion and it got him kicked out of Eden or Paradise. If one goes along with or is indifferent (of same effect) to the gay rebellion then he must
consider what might happen to him in some way. Ultimately we
as Christians have a responsibility to care for the souls of others
and this is the basis of our love for our fellow man. It is the lack
of this in modern Christianity that becomes our own stumblingblock. Pray and see if what I tell you is true or not.
Better things can happen to your life and the ones you love if
you set out to be pleasing in God's sight, not man's. God be with you and yours! Humbly.
is with regards to the fact that you said you didn't care if gay marriage was legal or not. I
hope that in your response to me that you weren't saying that you are a pastor or someone
in authority over a congregation because that
would make the situation even worse. A pastor or
an authority over a cogregation has the responsibility of watching over the sheep and caring if whether or not danger is approaching,
in any form. It would be like saying that I don't care whether a hungry dangerous lion is
threatening the welfare of the sheep the Lord
has entrusted into my care. Sin as pervasive as
homosexuality is and the effort to further empower the sin with the rights of legally
sanctioned marriage are mere starts that tell us
they are not going to stop with just that, in light of other things they are doing to attack the faith.This congregation you talk about may
not have many people capable of rendering sound
spiritual decisions with regard to the advance-
ment of such perverse evil, only because you
didn't care.Maybe you are not truly called to
a ministerial responsibility.As far as the high horse goes many a man has been shot out of the
saddle on such horses.As far as sin goes, no one
needs to point out that which is conspicuous and
evident.Love.
thing that I addressed to you, I agree pretty
much wholeheartedly with the rest of the things
you said.If a member runs somebody off then he
needs to be admonished in the right way. The
church is a place for anyone to come and should
be inviting to all who will. However, a true
church is a holy place and should be treated as
if God lives there.For many it is a place of
rest and refreshment along the way and for others it is the only place they know as safe haven and still for others is a place to begin
their journey, finding salvation. Church is sanctuary from the wiles of the enemy. It is a place of provision. It is a place of fellowship
that embraces all newcomers but ultimately it is
a place where one can worship and seek God's
favor.If it is a true church it does not belong
to the flock, it belongs to God.It has a purpose
of pointing saved and unsaved alike to the only
path that leads to the Kingdom.One acting without ministerial authority, regarding the issue of salvation of a visitor does not conform
to the established order and authority set forth
by God. A good shepherd will forsake the flock in search of the lamb that was lost.I say this in all humility and I know that you are a good
person, Adam. God bless you and your family.
With love.
by members of the gay, liberal and emergent church movements
that seem to think that it is acceptable to continually live in sin
and stake the claim of being christian. These are they that want
the best of both worlds, despite the fact the scriptures tell us
that they can't have the best of both. It is a one or the other
proposition that the scriptures demand. There is no such thing
as a gay christian in the reality of the scriptures. Anyone that
believes otherwise believes in lies from Lucifer himself. I hate
to be so strongly worded but when I see that our Christian and
our finest military institutions are being used to advance the
gay agenda it brings me to repentable anger. As a Marine
Veteran and a Christian, my brothers in arms and I did not get
involved in this countries wars for gay freedom, rather it was
quite the opposite. We fought in an era when it was against
virtually every state law to be involved in homosexual behaviour.
When a Marine was found to be gay he was discharged with an
Undesirable Discharge in less than one week. These gays at
West Point are more interested in the politics of being gay than
defending our country, which is what West Point is all about.
They are more interested in sodomy than they are Jesus Christ.
Their secret is in knowing that our kids naturally grow up and
reach an age of rebelliousness so they advance their agenda in
our schools through sexual indoctrination classes so that by the
time they come to be rebellious they will have accepted that gay
lifestyles are O.K. When an adult gets angry at the rebellious child the child will gravitate towards those who will give him
comfort in his rebellion. Take away the rod of reproof and the
adult has no legal way to enforce traditional spiritual family
morality.More...
There are very sound reasons for opposing a radical redefinition of marriage. Unless we learn to articulate them, we will continue to lose the argument and continue to blame enmity toward God by our opponents as the sole reason. Let us take responsibility for our intellectual laziness and move forward!
average white man-military veteran, christian, head of househould, heterosexual and their supportive spouses as
the model by which they inventory his abilities and then give
rise to activist organizations that attack each one of these
powers to destroy the classic image of the patriotic American
male and his family. When black men saw this happening they
too stood up and those that did were equally attacked and called traitors to their race. The ACLU was the "go-to" lawyer
group that undertook all of the significant legal actions of these
traditional American role model dissections in the name of
equality. The activist groups paid off the politicians with money
and favors to get laws changed or legislated in their favor.
Lower court judges were paid off and even coerced into rendering decisions in favor of the activists and those lower
court judges that didn't were scathingly ostracized. Coercion is
a resource they use when money and other influences don't
work to effect their cause. The same thing is happening in
churches today. The public always assumed that the state and
federal oaths would give assurance that their- then state and
federal constitutions-were protected from enemies from without
and within the states or the nation. Money talks and duties walk.
Not even the venerable Supreme Court who is also charged with
the protections had the wisdom to see the big picture of what
was really happening and when someone finally woke up, it was
too late because of precedents set by schemeing lawyers. The ACLU was started by a card carrying communist lawyer who
made it the mission of the organization to change America. These are the people that Jay Sekulow and the ACLJ fights
consistently, in the name of Christianity. There is another
ongoing effort. More...
Please Lord lead us in the way we should go and let us not depart from You.
turn a blind eye to the Articles of the UCMJ that govern that
specific kind of behaviour, including the general "catch all"
Article. No matter how heroic and gallant a military man is
he is not afforded the same protection unless he is a homo
sexual. Heterosexuals are fully exposed to the full weight of
the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which now is not
uniform. They also enjoy other special treatments and are
allowed full voyeuristic priviledges in open showers and
latrines or heads. The heterosexual equivalent of watching naked women taking showers and using toilets. One of the
Worst scenarios is being alone with an armed homosexual
in a foxhole. There are many scenarios that I see are dangerous
for both . The death of a homosexual would demand special
attention and added expense to ensure that an enemy took
him down as versus a fellow military man. Coerscions and
crookedness will become all too pervasive and many
innocent people will be hurt by it.It is bad enough that the
military was already corrupt but this will make it far worse.
They will also reap special veteran's benefits while other
heterosexual veterans will continue to recieve worsening
benefits. Obamacare, veteran's and spousal benefits are
among many rewards they seek for their behaviour.
can be googled as just that-The Manhattan Declaration and
one can sign it and spread the word to other Christians and
even sympathetic unbelievers to sign. It is a great document
that is enjoined by every kind of Christian Church in the world.
In a way it is similiar to the declaration of independence for
the whole of Christendom. It is well worth reading and signing
and doing your part to reenforce ou faith. This is not a part of
any ecumenical movement that so many are concerned about
in the classic sense but rather it is a joint effort that states
the position of the whole of Christianity in terms that all
Christians throughout history from the time of Christ are and
should be in agreement with. It is a united front effort. If this
effort does not prove successfull, then the underpinnings of
the christian social fabric is likely to come undone, the world
over and especially here in America. This then would open
the way to more violent efforts and likely anarchy would prevail.
We are not the only nation whose Christian values are being attacked but we are thebsingularly most important nation by
virtue of the diversity of our beliefs. Other nations are important too, but we are the bastion of Christian freedom and if we fail
the rest of the world will fall along with us. I ask each and everyone of you to look up the Manhattan Declaration and
sign it, then have the people you know in church and in society
to do as you did. There is a concise listing of many of the
prominent ministries from diverse denominations that you can
see that signed on. Kay Arthur and Chuck Colson, Baptists,
Catholics and all the protestant denominations are there along
with their overseers. It costs you nothing though if you desire
you may donate to defray costs behind the effort. God bless !
such a direct danger to Christians and Christianity. Why do
you desire that Dr. Denison shift his focus? Isn't that like asking
him to look the other way? You are sneaky! You apparently miss
that the whole point is about redemption though you posit the
question in you own words. Love in Christian terminology is
very specific, the reality of which is revealed. Love in generic
terms has nothing to do with love as true Christians understand
it. When Dr. Denison focuses on any issue, he brings out the love and compassion Christians should have in any given
situation. It is up to you to accept it, debate it or leave alone.
When a Christian speaks of love, he speaks of Jesus Christ
who is God's love personnified. Jesus and God are one and
that means that if you say God is love, Jesus is love as well.
A true Christian knows the message of the truth is unpopular
and that carnal people will hate him and call him names and this is the cross he knows he carries. If you were truly a Christian
you would know that and you would know that whether or not
people call us haters is immaterial to us. You would also know
that those who would offend a Christian have a millstone around
there necks. One who hates and condemns sin may be known as a hater and condemner but he answers to God, not gays.
As a Christian, I cannot understand why same-sex marriage is wrong. It doesn't endanger anything. It doesn't diminish or demean marriage between man and woman. When I see our Bishop and all of our clergy supporting same-sex marriage, it leads me to say emphatically that your opposition and false words are driven by by fear and not faith. I urge you to embrace all people equally before you are consumed by your sad lack of love. Put God first in your life and believe that He wants you to listen, understand, and become a supporter of the true meaning of marriage.
I don't find it helpful to argue or debate but to say it does not diminish/demean true marriage (one woman/one man) is like saying playing basketball without a ball, doesn't change the game.
that it is so. It does not matter how much one may emulate
their idea of what a Christian does. I am not however calling
you a non-Christian. Your views go against any true Christian
teaching I have ever learned along with the teachings of the
scriptures themselves. Maybe you have sound scriptures to
support your views? I surely hope you do and maybe you can
make me change my mind as you so stealthily attempt to do
to other Christians. Homosexuality is a sin and as with other
sins done by other people it must be left behind before one
can be converted and be born again or saved. Anyone can call
themselves a Christian but only a converted person, not a perverted person , can truly claim the right to be called a follower of Christ. You are either for sin and it's furtherance or
you are for Christ. Which are you? Do you not care that your way
of thought leads people into perdition? Or does lust and pleasure trump the need for a soul's salvation? I hope you are not one who has once tasted the heavenly gift and forfeited it!
It might be impossible to renew you again into salvation! If you
are truly well read in scripture you would know what I am saying. Finally, if you were truly well read, you would not be in
defence of any aspect of homosexuality including the sin.
The Bible says that the day will come when good is called evil, and evil is called good. That day has certainly arrived. How long can we continue to stick our finger in the eye of God concerning homosexuality, abortion, etc. and not expect Him to bring judgement upon our country. But as Christians we cannot throw in the towel and give up. We must continue to stand for the truth and what is good. We must pray for a spirit of repentance and revival to sweep over our land. He is trying to wake His people up and call them back.
God's point of view.That view comes directly from scripture and cannot contradict it.Your clergy apparently disregard God and His Holy Scriptures when it comes to the matter of homosexuality, lust, perversity and sodomy amongst many other things.They are the clergy of a "let's pretend"church.Homosexual unions do demean and diminish Christian marriages. A Christian Marriage is known as Holy Matrimony and was instituted by God Himself. Your brand of marriage does more than demean it, it defiles it in that Christian Heterosexual Marriages are Holy unto God.Homosexual"wannabe marriages" are created by homosexuals, not God.Yes Dr. Denison is driven by fear and also by faith in that he is a God fearing man who speaks out in faith.God is first in his life and he does support true marriages, not fake ones.When you are through reading the prophets, you need to start studying Yeshua/Jesus and learn true repentance.Many former LBGT people have.Homosexual behaviour and your other sins need to be left behind, never revisited.
This is why same-sex marriage is wrong, plain and simple. It does greatly endanger our society and it does demean TRUE marriage. We can embrace all people while not embracing their sinful lifestyles. God is first in my life and I have listened to what He says in His Holy Word. He wants people to turn away from their sins, not continue on as if everything they want to do is ok. Living in sin is not ok.
I am a West Point graduate and disabled war veteran living in a private veteran's home I pay 1500 out of pocket for monthly. Please tell me this is not true? If if is, we must begin a letter writing campaign to the Superintendent about eliminating our private donations to the West Point Fund.
This is outrageous and I will not stand for it and do nothing.
Please notify me of what occurred and if it was in fact sanctioned by the Presidentially appointed Chaplain.
Rich Henkle
West Point 89
Sadly the world looks at many Christian marriages and sees
the same divorce rate, open hostility and/or passive aggression and unhappiness... Hardly the slice of heaven, this side of eternity it was designed to be.
His Word in the public square. Help!
Raise up Your mighty church, God. I pray that the notoriety of this story will stir many of us to take action in Your great name. I pray that we would bless those who are in love and yet not compromise on speaking the truth. Your word says it is the love of God that calls people to repentance. May we love You more fully that we may know how to show them love; walking alongside them in life, as You did and do-seeking and saving the lost. Not embracing their lifestyle but embracing the person. Love does not mean giving away your house of worship or your standard of marriage. Yet, I imagine to those who are told “no” you may not get “married” the rejection does not feel loving. So simple and yet it gets so messy and complex. Yet Lord, we must stand for absolute truth in a world that shouts for no absolutes.
Lord, You must do it. We lay ourselves at Your feet. We need Your spirit to guide us moment by moment. We need You to turn the tide of moral corruption in our nation. Open the eyes of the hearts of those who are blind Lord. We will be Your hands and feet. We are Your people. Show us where You want us to go. Thank You for loving us. You are amazing. Amen.
False teaching embraces a form of love - without Godliness, or righteousness .... and so it is not the description of "love" that is defined by God.
Some of us here who are really upset and bothered by all of the sin that is being paraded ... I am thinking of how pleased God was at times when unrighteousness upset righteous people - how it would bother them .... and the outcry of the righteous was heard by God.
So, I think, to continue to cry out to Him !! ... about the sin in the land ... is very helpful - because only He can turn a heart.
There would be something really really wrong if we didn't even notice something was terribly "off".
I am hoping that this kind of news and vaunting become less ... but I rather doubt it, as after watching television for a few days (which I rarely do anymore), it seems that television and the news is much of the problem in selling the image that "all is well", and same-sex relationships are just fine and commonplace.
As for people within the church being deceived - I read something recently that loosening the definition of "inerrancy" of scripture has had much to do with moral decline.
When I see which denominations have "fallen" - I would agree.
if the Christians don't speak out.
Sodom and Gomorrah will be proud of their ofspring
I believe they really think they areborn gay.Pray for them asGod wants us to witness to them not condem ,.Martha Lueth
One day I realised that hey, Jesus used to win all arguments with a very short exchange, we should be able to do the same. Now without claiming divine inspiration, I threw in my bit by asking a simple question "Hold on folks, are you saying that playing in excrement is healthy?". The shock would leave them speechless momentarily, someone might respond weakly with something about dark ages philosopy but I'd repeat the question and ask for an answer, yes or no.
On one occasion someone said something about aids originating in monkeys in Africa and somehow crossed to man. I said that yes, it's common in those countries for men to have sex with animals, especially Africa; Islam has rules for sex with animals. That's how it got to humans.
The enthusiastic discussion that had started up (without me) some 10 minutes before would suddenly melt away and everyone got back to work. Of course I was seldom on the short list for promotions, that's the price.
If only we would stop talking nice nonsense and call a spade a spade. Otherwise, forget it and give up.
Let's not stand on neutral ground, either you are for Him, or against Him, you choose.
And since when is BEING GAY been a sin? Isn't it the actual homosexual activity that is sinful?
"Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone."
People who are gay can be Christians too. God doesn't make anyone else clean up their life before they can become Christians.
The Gospel is for those who believe, not those who are sinless.
have taken regarding this issue. They all pretty much agree
with the scriptures which tell us that sins of several natures
will keep us out of Heaven. God is adamant regarding who
HE lets into His Kingdom. I have heard. "the first stone
Cast" argument over and over again by people who know
they live in sin and have no real desire to repent of sin.
Gay is a misnomer and is very broad by definition. There
are those who are actively homosexual, passively homosexual
and formerly homosexual. In order to become a born again
Christian one must repent and leave the life of sin behind.
He must denounce his past life and start all over from the
beginning. He concentrates on building a life of Godly virtue
as taught by Yeshua/Jesus our Saviour. We meditate upon His
words as He brings us into a new life with thanksgiving and
praise in our hearts for the gift of a new start and new life
through His Salvation. One cannot be gay and be a Christian
at the same time, he can be formerly gay and be a Christian.
He must be vigilant in not allowing gay temptations overcome
him. Yeshua/Jesus became the first sacrifice which requires us
sacrifice our former lives in order to recieve the glory of His
Salvation. There is no salvation without sacrifice. There is no
other way. Cont'd.
else clean up their life before they can become Christians.
The cleansing comes at the cross when one repents with
great sorrow for past sin. This is what is meant by the
cleansing by the blood of Jesus or by the blood of the Lamb.
One cannot clean up themselves on their own no matter how
much they try. There would be those self righteous souls,
indignant to the truth that would like you to think otherwise.
This is Satan's effort to hold you back from the true gift of
Salvation. All people are born into sin from the beginning,
Sin is sin, no matter what brand name it goes under. One
cannot enter into Heaven who is not cleansed by the blood of
Jesus. The most challenging part of salvation is to abide by
the decision to sin no more. One learns to become an overcomer and have victory over the many great temptations
that set themselves before him once he is born again. This
adds a meaning to the walk or journey to the Kingdom. We
become warriors in the battle against sin and temptation but
we can't even do that without a dependency on Yeshua/Jesus.
The gospel then is for those who sin and serves to remind those
who have been born again to stay on the straight and narrow.
The gospel is the good news that sinners can be born again. It
is good news to those who will choose to believe.
the only sin that one cannot be forgiven of. All other sins. can
be forgiven but blasphemy cannot be forgiven.
I have noticed that your statements are well crafted and twisted
and I wonder your motivation behind them, they are designed
to mislead or to elicit a truthful response. Which is it? True
Salvation is the most serious matter in all of Christianity. If
you really want to be saved then follow what I have written
and entreat me to help you or find a Christian Outreach staffed
by Christians who are formerly gay and have left homosexuality
behind. If you think it is a game and are merely toying around,
you are ignorant of the grave consequences of your activity.
If you are subliminally implanting subtle twistings of scripture
in an effort to affect or alter true Christian thought, the bible
warns of plaques and punishments on those that do that. I
would, through love, prefer to view you as one crying out for
the truth and that your words are saying you truly don't under-
stand. You are entitled to both the truth and to salvation, if
you genuinely desire it. I would be joyful to respond to your
inquiries and help you with the correct understanding of
salvation. I have walked many through the salvation experience
in the past and none have ever regretted it.
not distinguish between the fact that there are those sinners
who choose to sin and those who choose not to sin. Your
statement is known in the scriptures as a half-truth. We
know Satan and those inspired by him as those who speak
lies and half-truths. Be aware that there are those of us who see
through these things and offer up prayers, out of love, on your
behalf. You definitely need God's grace and mercy--most
especially mercy, because you do not know what you are
bringing onto yourself and you need His protection. If you
are not saved as prescribed by scripture you are in great
danger. I do not say this lightly, in view with other half truths
you have cleverly written. You are either destined to be saved
or you are a tool of Satan, you know the consequences, think
long and hard before you choose your next words.I say this
with a certain fear and reverence of God and I have witnessed
His Wrath, it isn't very pleasant and at times quite terrifying.
The choice is yours.
all of you and Dr. Denison.My life is not an
easy one and I am sure that I am in good com-
pany.For a number of years I have noticed a
decline in true, compassionate and caring Chris-
tians around my geographical area.It is both alarming and somewhat devastating to me as I see how it affects my family and others, who are
in need of helping hands.I find myself in constant prayer begging God to help me find compassion in this desert.There is every kind
of Christian in the area, but not the kind that
propagates love and the virtues of faith. At
present it is not possible to move away.
Judgementalism and gossip with a general para-
noia seems to be replacing true Christian virtue
to the extent that lives get ruined. It is a
sad note.If you are in an area where goodness
abounds and Christians are responsive to the
needs of others God has blessed you greatly.
Be thankful for what you have and hold tight to
it and be certain others do the same. Guard it
with your prayers and support.I owe a debt of
gratitude to each and every one of you for
the sincere spiritual qualities I see in your
writings that you share.This has been a great
learning experience for me and I treasure it.
It is my desire to draw closer to the Lord and
your strong faith helps me considerably.Thank you all and God Bless You!
The Bible teaches the sin of homosexuality. I agree. But this issue is much larger! Isn't this more about 'sexuality?' How does the church handle sexuality? I hesitate to speak for every local church- but it seems that sexuality only comes into play when homosexual activity is suspected.
Or is this about marriage and family? Isn't DIVORCE the single biggest threat to traditional family? Even within 'Christian' homes? Although the Bible permits divorce and remarriage in certain situations, this is obviously abused and against God's plan.
And what is 'Biblical Marriage?' Is it one man and one woman? Or one man and many women? Or according to Paul, shouldn't we all seek to live a life of singleness- devoted to God? But if we can't control our sexual desires, then we should marry.
But what about someone who is homosexual?!? If he or she can't control their sexual desire, then they can't get married...
Lastly, is America a Christian nation? Or is America a place where many Christians live? Morality CANNOT be legislated - it can only be MODELED through the church's faithfulness.
As a minister, I am ashamed of the church's action toward homosexual people.
frustrations. To harbor resentment and unforgiveness in your
heart is equally as sinful to what homosexuals and adulterers
do. It is equally as punishable by God. Along with every temp-
tation God provides a way of escape. It is by our love that people
will know us.This is in the bible. Learn how to turn your resentments and unforgivenesses into love. You will live longer
and will obtain the favor of God so that your prayers may be
answered. We cannot forget that we too were once committed
to sin. It is God's desire that no one would perish. No christian likes the sins of others or sins in their own lives but we cannot
hrow the baby out with the bathwater. Jesus left us with two
commandments to replace the old testament ones. Love God
and love your fellow man. The whole of the old law rests in these two commandments, anything that does not comply with
these two commandments is sin. Pure and simple. Let the love
of Yeshua/Jesus guide you in all the things you do and say.
I will pray for your security and comfort and that He will
demonstrate His marvellous love to you, that you may learn.
May God watch over you.
Those Christians with a stance that opposes what homosexuals want us to believe their points are going down while the
pro homosexual people. have points moving upwards especially
when they had thumbs down. It is obvious that the pro homosexuals are invading Christian forums and attempting to
manipulate the voting process. It is apparent that they will interfere with Christians on every finite level anywhere and
everywhere they can, throughout the internet and in many other places. Today there has been a small handful. This same thing
went on the last time this kind of subject was broached. It
is obvious that a team effort is going on with them. Interestingly
however, is that our writings and discussions remain intact
and the truth will endure and cannot be destroyed.These
efforts to sabotage the workings of God's servants will be
met with His wrath unless they repent it is only a matter of
time. Please be patient and longsuffering and this too shall pass. The truth is never popular with those who embrace sin.
They are simply nervous and do not know how to accept the
truth. Those of you who have stood by your convictions
regarding God's rejection of homosexuality all deserve many
more thumbs up than what you see. God Bless!
Ruth was Naomi's daugher-in-law and she became Boaz's wife after her husband died; read the book of Ruth which is only 4 chapters. and David and Jonathan were best friends. do you think that women and men can't have best friends and not have a sexual relationship with them? David and Jonathan would know from the Old Testament that homosexuality is a sin punishable by death and would not indulge in this practice. Jesus did not have to say anything about homosexuality - He upheld the Old Testament laws Himself. He came not to abolish the law, but to fulfill it.
Jesus was homosexual. What all you have written
is parroting liberal revisionist viewpoints.
You are on highly dangerous ground if you
believe the way you do.Eunuchs were created as
unsexual people and were trained their entire
lives to be unsexual, not homo, bi or trans.
They were uns. Kings used eunuchs in places of
high trust to ensure a guardian over their wives.Eunuchs were a special guard force and
were reknowned for not having any sexual lust
or desire. If this were ever violated the eunuch
would beput to death. In India, modern day eunuchs exist as a form of homoerotic behaviour
and as they do in other countries.Eunuchs in the
biblical period held positions of high honor and
were priviledged and ate at the king's table.
In context with Phillip and the eunuch,the eunuch already posessed an unsexual form of
virtue and was interested in obtaining even greater virtue, not from just a king but from the King of Kings as Phillip attested to and
testified of.For Ruth and Naomi, I defer to
Liz's comments which are accurate.It is a shame
that someone figures out how to withhold the
truth from gay people and delivers to them a
twisted version. There are those who prey on
the gullability of people who sorely need the
pure truth.No biblical texts have been taken out
of context.Love.
Quoting Jean:
you've just demonstrated your OWN double standard hypocrisy, to project the fault of OTHERS allegedly taking the Biblical texts out of context
responses.Sin is sin. To answer your question
I'll do it with a question-what difference
does it make? Answer, sin is sin.The word raca
is a term that means one who is without worth
and was prosecuteable under the old law that
Christ supersceded.Calling someone a fool is
different in that just like homosexuality there
is a danger of hellfire.If one is a fool to a
Christian, it means one who is an unbeliever or
is an atheist, fool in the carnal sense is a
blockhead.There is relativism in both senses
and what God looks at is the attitude of the
heart at the time it is spoken, that is why
there is a danger.In other words if spoken out of love and sincere observation it is excusable
with a warning not to let it develope into a hate. If spoken out of hatred it is excusable only for one who repents to God for the sin of
hatred and all the sins that attach themselves
to hatred. A carnal or unsaved person is in
dire danger of hellfire if using the term because he does not know love or how to love in
a Godly way, though he may have decieved himself
into thinking he knows what love is. The closest
a carnal person can know love is if it is shown
to him or her. Otherwise their lusts guide them.
Christians are held to a graceful standard that
carnal people cannot enjoy or percieve.Does this
help?
what can we expect from a sinful world without the Holy Spirit. I believe the Lord will judge his church first for not living up to HIS Word. He said the government should be upon the shoulder of the church we have disrespected the President because we have no respect or reverence for Almighty God.It will be sad for the leaders of the church in that day. We must humble ourselves and turn from our evil ways before its too late?My spirit is grieved not with the world, but with the church they are sinners, we are supposed to be saved? What an indictment to HIS Holy name we should be ashamed to talk about sinners and forget the tree in our eyes. We are to preach JESUS and lift HIM up and HE will draw all men to Himself, but we are drawing men and boys to ourselves, and want to be a witness of the Light??? One sin is not greater than another all is sin in the eyes of GOD!I believe that WE the church should take a good look at ourselves compare our walk and lifestyle with HIS Word to see how we line up. Samaritan have no dealing with Jews!! Whites have dealing with blacks only in a church setting sometimes is a sin.Christian TV we see it all the time white night, black night???
1. What can we expect from a sinful world without the Holy Spirit? I believe the Lord will judge his church first for not living up to His word. This statement is true and I totally agree.
2. My spirit is grieved not with the world, but with the church they are sinners. This sounds like you are condemning the church as a whole. While I know that this statement is true of more and more churches in this day, there are still some Bible based churches where Jesus is preached and lifted up. There are still some churches where we know that we are sinners, however we have confessed our sins and accepted God's forgiveness. There are still some churches where we do take a good look at ourselves, compare our walk and lifestyle with His word. There are still some churches where we do much good for our fellow man and we love all people.
None of this means that we are to accept same-sex marriage. It is true that we are all sinners, but we who have been forgiven are striving to live better, more righteous lives. The practice of an active homosexual lifestyle and certainly marriage between them are never acceptable in the eyes of God.